Cooking And Coping: Making Lobster Avocado Grapefruit Salad With Veronica Webb

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Cooking And Coping is a series created by @HungryEditor profiling people on what they are cooking and how they are coping during the COVID-19 global pandemic.

Veronica Webb is a multihyphenate — supermodel, writer, mother, entrepreneur, and TV personality. She is the founder of the pro-aging site WebbOnTheFly.com. Webb is no stranger to the limelight. She has been modeling for over 35 years with covers for Elle, Essence, and Vogue. Webb carved her own path in the fashion and beauty industry. In the early 90s, she was the first Black supermodel to sign a long-term contract with a global cosmetics brand. Webb has also strutted down the catwalk for some of the most coveted runways such as Azzedine Alaïa, Chanel, Christian Dior, Kanye West’s Yeezy, Sergio Hudson, Tommy Hilfiger x Zendaya, and Versace, among others. Her acting credits include Jungle Fever, The West Wing, Malcolm X, Zoolander, and even music videos for Jodeci and New Order. Webb continues to expand her repertoire with her role at Google as Editor-at-Large of Accelerate with Google. Additionally she is on the board of the Black In Fashion Council founded by Lindsay Peoples Wagner and Sandrine Charles, as well as New Beauty’s Brain Trust. Webb is a member of FIT’s The Couture Council and a founding member of 25 Black Women in Beauty. She is based in New York City with her husband and blended family of four teens. You can follow her on Instagram: @veronicawebb.

Benjamin Liong Setiawan: What recipe are you loving right now?

Veronica Webb: Lobster Avocado Grapefruit Salad.

Salad

  • 1 head of Iceberg Lettuce (or Bibb Lettuce)
  • 1 lb cooked Lobster meat, out of the shell (Jumbo Lump Crab meat or Shrimp works too)
  • 2 ripe Hass or Israeli Avocados
  • 1 large ripe Pink Grapefruit 
  • Corn
  • Grape Tomatoes

Dressing

Setiawan: How did you come across this recipe?

Webb: It was one of those things where you use whatever you happen to have in the refrigerator and what you remember eating in a restaurant (back when dining out was a thing), and somehow that all comes together to create some kitchen magic. 

Setiawan: What do you love about this recipe?

Webb: It makes everybody feel like we’re at a really good restaurant.

Setiawan: Any special memories connected to this recipe?

Webb: My husband and my four teens love it. For my sister, who’s an oncologist and a front line worker in the COVID-19 crisis, this has become her go-to happy meal that takes her to her happy place after her shift at the hospital. It’s such a great meal because it just fires on all senses. It’s sweet, because of the pink grapefruit. Creamy and savory because of the avocado topped with the mustard shallot dressing and crunchy and tender because of the texture from the lettuce. My sister and I, she lives in Detroit, make a date to eat this together on FaceTime. It’s not the same as meeting at your favorite spot for fine dining — but it’s as close as we’re going to get in this new normal.

Setiawan: Once people are able to safely meet up IRL again, who is the first person you want to make this recipe for?

Webb: Forget that! I’m so sick of my own cooking I could scream! But, ok, I would make it for my BFF from nursery school, Jolie Kobrinsky. She’s an elite trainer and nutritionist and I know she would approve. 

Setiawan: What are some ways you’re coping with spending more time indoors and social distancing?

Webb: Following nature’s rhythms. Going to bed as close to sundown and getting up as close to sunrise as possible. Everything feels so dysregulated now — no place to go, no set schedule. Natural light as a constant elevates my mood. 

Setiawan: What are you doing to stay sane?

Webb: Long walks. 6-8 miles at a clip in Central Park. Otherwise, I feel like a shark endlessly circling my apartment all day cleaning up trying to expend my energy and not drown under the amount of housework that comes with being in your home 24/7 for weeks on end doing everything you need to do.

Setiawan: What are you doing to stay creative?

Webb: Taking deep dives into historical subjects through literature, podcasts, and documentaries. Currently, I’m teaching myself about U.S.-Middle East relations. 

Setiawan: What are you doing to stay connected?

Webb: Purposefully I rotate calling each of my friends about once every 10 days to two weeks and really making time to talk for an hour or more with no interruptions is one of the most satisfying surprise outcomes of lockdown. 

Setiawan: What gives you hope?

Webb: Science is working together in unprecedented ways, freely sharing information, foregoing financial gains from patents, promising to deliver us a vaccine free of charge. 

Setiawan: What are you learning from all of this?

Webb: Time is a gift. The internet and cell phones moved time into warp speed and we all felt like if we weren’t doing 40 things at once we were somehow failing. Nothing is really satisfying if you live that way. In the long slow days at home, I’ve connected with my family in a way that I remember being when I was kid — when the person in front of you is the only thing in the world that’s going on at that moment. 

Setiawan: What changes do you hope to see in the future?

Webb: The rise of compassion, tolerance, and open discussion as opposed to the current mood on both the right and the left that condones orthodoxy and groupthink.

Setiawan: What rhythms are you implementing during this time? 

Webb: Two hours of physical movement a day — walking, dancing, or working out in the living room. Exercise opens my mind, lowers anxiety, and helps me speak from the heart.

Setiawan: What projects are you working on?

Webb: My motto is “Own your age. Own your beauty. Own your power.” I write a pro-aging blog WebbOnTheFly.com about beauty, fashion, and fitness. Women are taught to fear aging from as young as adolescence. I lived it to the nth power as a supermodel in the 90s. It’s not a healthy mindset. Six years ago when I turned 50, I created WebbOnTheFly.com as an age positive destination for women of all ages. 

Setiawan: What has been the most surprising?

Webb: How little I need to be content. New York City can make an excitement junkie out of anybody. There’s so much to do and to see. The city makes it so you can lose sight of how satisfying it is to do less. I’ve learned to do less, do things better, and enjoy what I’m doing in the moment a lot more. 

Setiawan: What has been the most inspiring?

Webb: Not being ruled by commuting or a schedule. Quarantine has allowed me to spend time with people I love without having to squeeze in the time to be together.

Setiawan: Who do you think should be featured on Cooking And Coping next?

Webb: Toni Tipton-Martin author of Jubilee: Recipes from Two Centuries of African American Cooking, a history of African American cuisine.

Daniel Martin artistic director of Tatcha

Kerry Diamond founder of Cherry Bombe, the ultimate destination for women in food.

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