Sarah Jessica Parker and Michael Patrick King break down Carrie Bradshaw’s latest breakup on And Just Like That…

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And just like that, Carrie and Franklyn are over. (Warning: Spoilers ahead if you haven’t finished the first two episodes of And Just Like That… season two).

As a refresher, the podcast producer simmered in the background during season one until he and Carrie had one hell of a passionate kiss in the elevator during the last few seconds of the finale. While Carrie had gone on dates with other men following Big’s death last season, Franklyn seemed to hold the most promise given that he understands the media world, had earned her trust, and honestly, was as hot as the concrete on a summer’s day in New York City.

When Glamour spoke to Ivan Hernandez, the actor who plays Franklyn, last May, he told us that the producers wanted the ending to be a surprise. In fact, Hernandez hadn’t known until he got the script that he’d be locking lips with Sarah Jessica Parker.

“I was just as surprised as everybody else…but it was such an exciting ending,” he said at the time. “I mean, nobody knows where this storyline is going to lead and if Franklyn’s going to be sticking around. I have my own thoughts, but it’s not up to me. It’s up to the writers.”

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In the opening scene of And Just Like That… season two, we see Carrie Bradshaw sauntering over to Franklyn in bed, but that’s about as hot as things get for the duo. Later in the episode Carrie tells Franklyn she wants takeout only on Thursdays (code for their time together) and isn’t quite in a relationship-y place. By the end of episode two, the podcast studios get bought out and Franklyn and Carrie are out of work. Although Franklyn tells Carrie he wants more, she’s not ready yet. So, just like that, they’re kaput.

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