“One thing you’ve got to try and get away from, which is hard this day and age with so many choices, is looking at food for fun instead of fuel.
“At the end of the day, there are two things, short-term comfort, and long-term pain and short-term discomfort and long-term gain. We are wired to take the short time comfort.
“That can be in relationships, food, drink, drugs even. Those are short-term wins, but with discomfort you can go a lot further.”
They pair emphasise the importance of seeing health, both mental and physical, as an investment.
“Your mental wealth is the investment you make in yourself on a regular basis, what you do mentally and physically,” Ollie says. “What are you doing? How are you investing in yourself daily?
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